Dr. Mario Botta, a heart surgeon from Milan, had been in Medjugorje in April, 1983, with a team of Italian doctors to establish that the heartbeats of the visionaries were normal during ecstasy. This test among a number of other clinical tests implied that the apparitions did not affect physiological reality in any way. Dr. Botta returned to Medjugorje to carry out an electrocardiogram on Ivan. Again, he concluded:
“…that ecstasy does not suppress normal physiology but somehow transcends it